1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:11,020 foreign 2 00:00:35,630 --> 00:00:16,310 [Music] 3 00:00:38,450 --> 00:00:35,640 Robert Gribble in the National UFO 4 00:00:40,670 --> 00:00:38,460 Reporting Center by Charles Lear when 5 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:40,680 the subject of UFO databases comes up 6 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:43,020 the National UFO Reporting Center is 7 00:00:47,209 --> 00:00:45,180 usually mentioned along with the name of 8 00:00:49,790 --> 00:00:47,219 its seemingly tireless director Peter 9 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:49,800 Davenport what many may not know is who 10 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:51,840 it was that got it started Washington 11 00:00:56,330 --> 00:00:54,000 State move on director Maureen Morgan 12 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:56,340 wrote an article titled the early years 13 00:01:01,850 --> 00:00:59,039 of new Fork Bob Gribble and Wendy Connor 14 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:01,860 which was published in the November 2021 15 00:01:07,370 --> 00:01:04,799 Washington mufon newsletter according to 16 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:07,380 Morgan Bob Gribble a Seattle firefighter 17 00:01:13,250 --> 00:01:10,799 became fascinated by UFOs in 1954 when 18 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:13,260 he read an article in true magazine this 19 00:01:17,929 --> 00:01:14,700 could have been the article in the May 20 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:17,939 1954 issue titled what our Air Force 21 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:20,640 found out about UFOs written by Edward J 22 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:22,740 rupelt the first director of Project 23 00:01:28,370 --> 00:01:25,500 Blue Book according to Morgan Gribble 24 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:28,380 ordered the 1954 book flying saucers on 25 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:30,840 the attack by Harold Wilkins which was 26 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:32,880 advertised in the magazine and then 27 00:01:38,749 --> 00:01:36,000 picked up Donald Kia's 1954 book flying 28 00:01:41,149 --> 00:01:38,759 saucers are real he became believer in 29 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:41,159 the Extraterrestrial hypothesis and set 30 00:01:46,010 --> 00:01:43,200 about starting a saucer Group which he 31 00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:46,020 named the space observers League he put 32 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:48,119 out a report on interplanetary 33 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:50,880 spacecraft called Flying Saucer review 34 00:01:55,730 --> 00:01:53,220 which is the same name as the British 35 00:01:57,889 --> 00:01:55,740 publication started that same year by 36 00:02:00,289 --> 00:01:57,899 former Royal Air Force pilot Derek 37 00:02:02,569 --> 00:02:00,299 Dempster Gribble's Publications contain 38 00:02:04,850 --> 00:02:02,579 articles some reprinted with permission 39 00:02:07,850 --> 00:02:04,860 from magazines such as fape opinion 40 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:07,860 pieces and UFO related news there were 41 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:10,140 also sightings reports and Volume 1 42 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:12,720 Number 9 has a report from a young Ray 43 00:02:17,690 --> 00:02:15,000 Stanford official investigator and 44 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:17,700 reporter for Sol of the first sighting 45 00:02:23,869 --> 00:02:21,360 he ever had on July 10 1954 Stanford 46 00:02:26,510 --> 00:02:23,879 reported a flat circular desk flying 47 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:26,520 over his home in Corpus Christi Texas at 48 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:29,760 an estimated 150 miles per hour he wrote 49 00:02:34,130 --> 00:02:31,980 that it was traveling west stopped and 50 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:34,140 hovered for a few minutes and then 51 00:02:39,530 --> 00:02:36,480 continued according to him there were 11 52 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:39,540 Witnesses by DEC December of 1955 53 00:02:43,610 --> 00:02:41,519 Gribble changed the name of the 54 00:02:45,890 --> 00:02:43,620 organization to civilian saucer 55 00:02:47,690 --> 00:02:45,900 intelligence some readers may be aware 56 00:02:51,050 --> 00:02:47,700 that there is an active group at that 57 00:02:53,449 --> 00:02:51,060 time founded in 1954 called civilian 58 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:53,459 saucer intelligence New York that would 59 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,080 become renowned for the scientific 60 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:57,840 approach to Flying Saucer research in 61 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:00,720 1957 Gribble changed the name to the 62 00:03:05,150 --> 00:03:03,180 aerial phenomena research Group which is 63 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:05,160 quite similar to the aerial phenomena 64 00:03:11,330 --> 00:03:07,739 research organization a group founded in 65 00:03:15,949 --> 00:03:11,340 1952 by Jim and coral Lorenzen he put 66 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:15,959 out the aprg reporter until 1969. at the 67 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:18,720 same time he was busy with aprg he 68 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:20,879 formed another group that he named the 69 00:03:25,729 --> 00:03:23,280 national investigations Commission on 70 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:25,739 aerial phenomena and put out the nycap 71 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:30,000 reporter in 1962 and 1963 the fact that 72 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:32,159 Gribble's group had the same acronym as 73 00:03:36,770 --> 00:03:34,620 that of Donald keos significantly more 74 00:03:39,470 --> 00:03:36,780 famous group The National investigations 75 00:03:41,809 --> 00:03:39,480 committee on area phenomena did not 76 00:03:43,729 --> 00:03:41,819 Escape kehoe's attention and the very 77 00:03:45,890 --> 00:03:43,739 first issue of the nycap reporter 78 00:03:48,170 --> 00:03:45,900 Gribble goes on the defensive regarding 79 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,180 an article headlined erroneous use of 80 00:03:53,089 --> 00:03:50,879 nycap name in the August September issue 81 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:53,099 of the UFO investigator put out by 82 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:55,620 kehoe's group it is reported in the 83 00:03:59,869 --> 00:03:57,900 investigator that Gribble issued a press 84 00:04:02,350 --> 00:03:59,879 release erroneously announcing himself 85 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:02,360 as the Director of the nycap Washington 86 00:04:08,330 --> 00:04:05,340 subcommittee in the reporter Gribble 87 00:04:10,670 --> 00:04:08,340 calls Kehoe a prevaricator criticizes 88 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:10,680 the accuracy of his reporting questions 89 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:12,840 the accuracy of kehoe's books and 90 00:04:16,370 --> 00:04:14,760 magazine articles and offers one 91 00:04:18,830 --> 00:04:16,380 thousand dollars to anyone who can 92 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:18,840 produce an article where he directly or 93 00:04:24,530 --> 00:04:21,359 indirectly identified himself in the way 94 00:04:26,749 --> 00:04:24,540 described in the investigator by 1969 95 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:26,759 Gribble seems to have burned himself out 96 00:04:30,830 --> 00:04:28,800 according to Morgan in her article 97 00:04:32,990 --> 00:04:30,840 Gribble had been a full-time member of 98 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:33,000 the Seattle Fire Department and had a 99 00:04:38,689 --> 00:04:34,800 wife and five children during his time 100 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:38,699 as a sorcerer in 1969 he got out 101 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:41,340 allergy slash ufology and dumped all of 102 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:44,280 his related archives into a landfill his 103 00:04:49,969 --> 00:04:47,880 retirement wouldn't last long in 1969 104 00:04:53,330 --> 00:04:49,979 the U.S Air Force terminated Project 105 00:04:55,550 --> 00:04:53,340 Blue Book in 1973 there was a flap in 106 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:55,560 the United States and Gribble saw a need 107 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:57,180 for a place where people could report 108 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:00,479 their Encounters in 1974 he set up what 109 00:05:04,969 --> 00:05:02,520 he called the National UFO Reporting 110 00:05:06,350 --> 00:05:04,979 Center and called Sheriff's offices and 111 00:05:08,749 --> 00:05:06,360 let them know they could give out his 112 00:05:10,670 --> 00:05:08,759 phone number to Witnesses word spread 113 00:05:12,650 --> 00:05:10,680 and soon as number was at the ready of 114 00:05:15,650 --> 00:05:12,660 police station's military bases and 115 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:15,660 airports according to Morgan the FAA 116 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:18,060 told Pilots to call new Fork if they 117 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:20,580 wanted to report a UFO encounter Gribble 118 00:05:24,529 --> 00:05:22,620 got others to work with him and all of 119 00:05:26,810 --> 00:05:24,539 the reports over the phone were recorded 120 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:26,820 on tape if Gribble and his associates 121 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:29,039 thought a case warranted it they would 122 00:05:34,249 --> 00:05:31,800 do an on-site investigation Gribble and 123 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:34,259 his operation are described in the 1986 124 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:36,720 Associated Press article according to 125 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:38,639 the article newfork was run out of 126 00:05:43,070 --> 00:05:41,039 gribbles cramped but tidy office in his 127 00:05:45,290 --> 00:05:43,080 home he spent twelve hundred dollars per 128 00:05:47,689 --> 00:05:45,300 year to keep it running and received an 129 00:05:50,090 --> 00:05:47,699 average of six calls per day even though 130 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:50,100 he'd never seen a UFO himself he told 131 00:05:54,110 --> 00:05:52,080 the reporter there's not the slightest 132 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:54,120 doubt that they're there according to 133 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:56,280 Morgan Gribble retired from active 134 00:06:03,110 --> 00:05:59,280 research in 1994 and turned new Fork 135 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:03,120 over to Peter Davenport by 2004 he was 136 00:06:07,730 --> 00:06:05,520 drowning in tapes and archived materials 137 00:06:10,010 --> 00:06:07,740 he was ready to pay another visit to the 138 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:10,020 dump but he got the idea instead to 139 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:12,180 donate his materials to Albuquerque new 140 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:15,120 mexico-based UFO historian Wendy Connors 141 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:17,520 Connors was the perfect person to take 142 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:19,620 care of and preserve Gribble's materials 143 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:22,560 particularly his tapes according to 144 00:06:26,689 --> 00:06:24,840 Morgan Connors spent several years in 145 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:26,699 the Air Force working in Communications 146 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:30,060 was interested in UFOs and specialized 147 00:06:34,490 --> 00:06:32,280 in the preservation of early historic 148 00:06:38,930 --> 00:06:34,500 recordings and photographs dealing with 149 00:06:41,450 --> 00:06:38,940 the UFO phenomena from 1947 to 1973 150 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:41,460 Connors collected UFO related audio 151 00:06:46,189 --> 00:06:43,500 clips and compiled them into a 152 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:46,199 collection she called faded discs The 153 00:06:50,749 --> 00:06:47,960 Collection can be accessed at 154 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:50,759 archive.org Connors took the best of the 155 00:06:56,270 --> 00:06:52,740 new Fork recordings and compiled them 156 00:06:58,330 --> 00:06:56,280 into a 44-hour collection of 252 tracks 157 00:07:00,590 --> 00:06:58,340 these can also be accessed at 158 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,600 archive.org or in a more easily 159 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:02,880 negotiated format with tracks of 160 00:07:08,050 --> 00:07:05,580 Interest labeled at the Northern Ontario 161 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:08,060 UFO research Society website 162 00:07:12,770 --> 00:07:11,100 knowuphores.com standout tracks include 163 00:07:15,050 --> 00:07:12,780 eight tracks having to do with the 164 00:07:16,969 --> 00:07:15,060 Travis Walton case including Travis 165 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:16,979 Walton's brother calling to report on 166 00:07:20,930 --> 00:07:18,840 the encounter by Travis and his 167 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:20,940 co-workers while Travis was still 168 00:07:25,730 --> 00:07:23,460 missing new Fort continues today with 169 00:07:28,129 --> 00:07:25,740 Peter Davenport at the helm and with the 170 00:07:30,170 --> 00:07:28,139 rise of the internet came easy access to 171 00:07:32,930 --> 00:07:30,180 all for a comprehensive no-nonsense 172 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:32,940 database fortunately for historians and 173 00:07:37,129 --> 00:07:35,160 researchers Gribble took a moment to 174 00:07:39,650 --> 00:07:37,139 pause before impulsively heading for the 175 00:07:41,570 --> 00:07:39,660 dump and took a moment to come up with 176 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:41,580 an original and Lasting name for his 177 00:07:45,529 --> 00:07:42,840 organization 178 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:45,539 Charles Lear is the author of The Flying 179 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:48,120 Saucer investigators available at 180 00:08:13,370 --> 00:08:06,080 [Music]